Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 2139A0CE58434D5F9C5EFE939B024F890FD5
Death: 6 Jan 1733/34
Sources:
1. Title: Grömbach Church Books, 1658-1984 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Grömbach (OA Freudenstadt)

Lucia heiratete Zahn, Jacob Jr. am 11 Feb 1679. Jacob (Sohn von Zahn, Jakob Sr. und Zahn, Anna Barbara - wife of) wurde geboren um 1650; und gestorben. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 9B30A8D8945F441EB791CA9EFEFF9FAC98C3
Sources:
1. Title: Grömbach Church Books, 1658-1984 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Grömbach (OA Freudenstadt)

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 33C7B97BD6474068B7CB25C2C12B70F0A8B5
Sources:
1. Title: Grömbach Church Books, 1658-1984 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Grömbach (OA Freudenstadt)
2. Title: Ortssippenbuch Kirchspiel Grömbach, 1659-1920 - Heide Clausecker and Horst Bruns - Möckmühl, Germany, 2004
3. Title: Grömbach Church Books, 1658-1984 - Evangelische Kirche Grömbach (OA Freudenstadt) -From marriage records

Hans heiratete Klump, Anna am 19 Mai 1708 in Grömbach, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Anna (Tochter von Klump, Peter und Kuohn, Catharina) wurde geboren am 9 Aug 1682 in Grömbach, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 12 Nov 1766 in Grömbach, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 5DD1D721398B4D00A302ECBC44FEB181F86C
Sources:
1. Title: Grömbach Church Books, 1658-1984 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Grömbach (OA Freudenstadt)

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 279810D980224BD6BBA495E7E927167EEA3F
Sources:
1. Title: Grömbach Church Books, 1658-1984 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Grömbach (OA Freudenstadt)

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 3863F46D39C24A4690C69C5DD0F93F04E29A
Born: 28 Jan 1712/13
Sources:
1. Title: Grömbach Church Books, 1658-1984 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Grömbach (OA Freudenstadt)

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 5F190783EECA4C9FB38E8F8157C33CF84443
Sources:
1. Title: Ortssippenbuch Kirchspiel Grömbach, 1659-1920 - Heide Clausecker and Horst Bruns - Möckmühl, Germany, 2004
2. Title: Grömbach Church Books, 1658-1984 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Grömbach (OA Freudenstadt)

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: FC5D4355110B421487C952A48FE0E3EEE922
Sources:
1. Title: Ortssippenbuch Kirchspiel Grömbach, 1659-1920 - Heide Clausecker and Horst Bruns - Möckmühl, Germany, 2004

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 8F6A8044E12B4AEEA24AE7163557334FF8BD
Sources:
1. Title: Grömbach Church Books, 1658-1984 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Grömbach (OA Freudenstadt)

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: E02F75E7CD5E4F5080EA0DE0CA0DE40950A2
Sources:
1. Title: Ralph Wiseman
2. Title: Family Search Web Site
3. Title: Grömbach Church Books, 1658-1984 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Grömbach (OA Freudenstadt)

Anna heiratete Göhring, Andreas am 16 Aug 1747 in Grömbach, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Andreas (Sohn von Göhring, Hans Jerg und Lehmann, Anna Maria) wurde geboren am 2 Dez 1720 in Aistaig, Kreis Rottweil, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 6 Dez 1769 in Grömbach, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 292362B35B4F4018BE940EC48059C196B758
Sources:
1. Title: Ortssippenbuch Kirchspiel Grömbach, 1659-1920 - Heide Clausecker and Horst Bruns - Möckmühl, Germany, 2004

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: F8D93DE6B9B8499D9AF0F1841D84783B9EF3
Born: Stillborn
Sources:
1. Title: Ortssippenbuch Kirchspiel Grömbach, 1659-1920 - Heide Clausecker and Horst Bruns - Möckmühl, Germany, 2004

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 20BFF9F556154B9EBF965883985499CFA5B9
Born: 19 Jan 1727/28
Sources:
1. Title: Grömbach Church Books, 1658-1984 - Evangelische Kirche Grömbach (OA Freudenstadt)
2. Title: Ortssippenbuch Kirchspiel Grömbach, 1659-1920 - Heide Clausecker and Horst Bruns - Möckmühl, Germany, 2004

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: E56D026E1D814757B5E3B46D500CF4878E2A
Sources:
1. Title: Grömbach Church Books, 1658-1984 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Grömbach (OA Freudenstadt)

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 3E95E73C681B457AAABA38AA7B5C4315ADF1
Sources:
1. Title: Ortssippenbuch Kirchspiel Grömbach, 1659-1920 - Heide Clausecker and Horst Bruns - Möckmühl, Germany, 2004
2. Title: Grömbach Church Books, 1658-1984 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Grömbach (OA Freudenstadt)

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: A8B3613CE1484D888A4D1C34742C01E8A61A
Sources:
1. Title: Grömbach Church Books, 1658-1984 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Grömbach (OA Freudenstadt)

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: AF856B40E6C041068DCD5E1B31B3B26DA209
Sources:
1. Title: Ralph Wiseman
2. Title: Grömbach Church Books, 1658-1984 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Grömbach (OA Freudenstadt)
3. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

Anna heiratete Harr, Johann David Sr. am 15 Jun 1773 in Glatten, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Johann (Sohn von Harr, Christian Friedrich und Schray, Catharina Margaretha) wurde geboren am 16 Mrz 1750 in Glatten, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 17 Okt 1832 in Glatten, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: CAFE5E99C98446A79C3765D9C4AADE1A70FE
Sources:
1. Title: Ortssippenbuch Kirchspiel Grömbach, 1659-1920 - Heide Clausecker and Horst Bruns - Möckmühl, Germany, 2004
2. Title: Grömbach Church Books, 1658-1984 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Grömbach (OA Freudenstadt)

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: B29B414B05234B7193D3817377B39D12F019
IMMIGRATION: Jacob Friedrich's application for immigration to Neudorf, Odessa, Russia was made on 4 Jun 1817 and approved on 12 Jun 1817
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

Jacob heiratete Matt, Anna Barbara am 27 Nov 1799 in Glatten, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Anna (Tochter von Matt, Christian und Bohunt, Christina) wurde geboren am 17 Sep 1776 in Glatten, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; und gestorben. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 18001F63F1A74A6BBD7258E751954FFC868F
Married: Not Married - 1 Spouse Unknown
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

Familie/Ehepartner: unbekannt. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 92C67D70ACD24A958CEDBD8C9C5202378B1D
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: F2489998633B46B6B474A4F3A881FCDFC81A
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 8C768B6D0F414547B8BE6EA8A3FAE32103AC
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 7783D1BF1313422286E0A64F1ADD21992052
OCCUPATION
On his marriage record and the record for the birth of his son, Johannes, it indicates that Johann David Harr was a shoemaker.
IMMIGRATION
Johann David's application for immigration to Russia was made on 4 Jun 1817 and approved on 12 Jun 1817.
According to GRCA #1 CD, David Harr went to Neudorf in the Taurien, NOT Neudorf in Odessa (as indicated in Stumpp)
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)
2. Title: Grömbach Church Books, 1658-1984 - Evangelische Kirche Grömbach (OA Freudenstadt) - #1201986

Johann heiratete Stockinger, Agnes Margaretha am 15 Feb 1816 in Grömbach, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Agnes (Tochter von Stockinger, Johann Ulrich und Roller, Anna Maria) wurde geboren am 19 Jun 1778 in Grömbach, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben vor 1833 in ,,, Rußland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: B5F429E5236C4F768BD566062C2B9E592572
EMIGRATION TO RUSSIA
The Glatten family book register for the family of Johann David Harr and Anna Maria Gühring shows that their children Jacob Friedrich, Johann David, Johannes, Johann Matthaus and Anna Maria all emigrated to Russia. Passport data can be found for Friedrich and David in 1817. As the other three were not married at the time, it is possible that they traveled under the passport of one of their older married brothers. It is known that Johannes arrived in Russia in 1817. His date of birth corresponds very closely to that calculated from the ages in the documents below. While one of those documents gives his place of origin as Glatt (rather than Glatten), no record of a Johannes Harr from Glatt can be found. Based on other information, it is currently assumed that he was actually this Johannes from Glatten.
DOCUMENTS FROM RUSSIA
Fond #252-1-535 --About accepting the immigrant Johann Harr into the number of the colonists of Grossliebental.
*5 March 1826 - Württemberg immigrant Johann Harr, who arrived in 1817 through Ismail quarantine and did not come in 1822 to be registered for the new revision lists, wishes now to be accepted into the number of the colonists of the Colony Grossliebental, about whose acceptance the local colonists declared their agreement.. The attachments under A and B, the name list about his family, I submit all of this to the Office for their approval..
*15 March 1826 - ..Johann Harr..who wishes to be accepted into the number of the colonists of the Colony Grossliebental, about whose acceptance the local community declared their agreement and that decision was submitted to the Office for approval together with the name list of Harr's family and the supervisor submits this Grossliebental community's aggreement to accept immigrant Harr and his family of 1 male and 3 female members.. the immigrant Johann Harr as well as his wife Margaretha actually arrived in 1817 to Russia through the Ismail quarantine, being then single, both with the standard passport and each of them had to pay 50 rubles of state quarantine debt.
*Attachment A, in German, dated 24 November 1825 - We, who are signing in the name of the community of the Grossliebental colonists, hereby certify that we shall accept and take into our midst the colonist Johann Harr, who arrived here, unmarried, in the year 1817 by way of Ismail, but who, however, married Margaretha Koch in the same year, together with his entire family, which consists of one male and 4 female souls. - Followed by 21 signatures.
*Attachment B, also in German, dated 28 January 1826 - a form with the name list for the family of colonist Johann Harr:
Arrived in 1817 by way of Ismail quarantine.
Johann Harr 35, wife Margaretha 32, daughters Anna 6, Charlotta 4, Cathrina 2.
Place of birth: "von Glatt, Oberamt Sulz in Württemberg"
Occupation: Schäfer
Residence: Grossliebental
*14 May 1826 - To Kherson financial office-The Office sends 2 copies of revision lists about newly accepted colonist Johann Harr and asks to accept Harr into the number of the colonists of Grossliebental, Tiraspol district, from 1827 and with benefits from 1817.
Fond #252-1-729 --Case of issuing emergency passports in Liebental district. Began in January 1830, completed 24 May 1830.
Grossliebental colonist Johann Harr (shepherd) wants to get a one-year passport to live with his family in Cherson, Tauria and Ekaterinoslav provinces earning his profession. Since this colonist doesn't have his farmstead and has guarantors for the future, the office asks for giving him a one-year passport. Legal duty of 5 silver rubles and 10 rubles for charitable institutions are enclosed.
Passport - By decree of his Majesty, Tsar and Emperor Nicholas Pavlovich, Ruler of all Russia.. Presenter of this, colonist of Odessa district, Colony Grossliebental, Johann Harr with family that consists of 2 males and 5 females, who has a state debt, discharged into Odessa district for personal needs from below written date for one year, that is until 19 October 1829. After this date he must come back; otherwise he will be subject to the law. Issued from Odessa Department of Foreign Settlers with attachment of a seal on 19 October 1828 in the State Colony of Tiraspol district.
Description:
Age: 39 - Height: small - Hair: blond - Eyebrows: blond - Eyes: blue - Nose: ordinary - Mouth: same - Chin: small
Face: pock-marked
Fond #252-1-878 (translated by Serge Yelizarov) -- About giving passports to colonists of Liebental district
To: Odessa Bureau of Foreign Settlers
Received: June 10, 1831
From: Liebental District Office
We ask to give/extend a one-year passport to Johann Harr with his family, who arrived through Ismail in 1817 and is registered in Gross-Liebental, to be a sheep-farmer at the estate of general Koble in Odessa uyezd. There are no obstacles from the community side, since all 1831 taxes have been paid and therefore his passport where his distinctive marks are pointed is true. - June 6, 1831
For midclass citizens and peasants; for the term less than one year; price 5 Rubles
By Ukaz of his Majesty, Emperor Nicolay Pavlovich
The bearer of this, colonist of Gross-Liebental Johann Harr with his wife Margaretha 38 years old, son Johann and daughters Anna, Lotta, Catharina and Barbara, with the state debt upon him, is allowed to go to various towns and villages of Cherson, Ekaterinoslav and Taurida provinces for personal needs, beginning from the date pointed below and for the term of one year, i.e. till May 8th of 1831 with getting back by then, to be prosecuted by the law otherwise. Given and sealed by Odessa Bureau of Foreign Settlers on May 8, 1830 in Odessa.
Distinctive Marks:
Age - 40 - Stature - low - Hair/brows - fair - Eyes - blue - Nose/mouth - regular - Chin - small - Face - pitted
Sources:
1. Title: Documents from Odessa - researched and provided by Serge Elizarov
2. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)
3. Title: Article by Johann Jacob Harr (born 1853)
4. Title: Odessa St. Paul Evangelical Lutheran Church Family Book--630-1-355 - Publication: GRHS, 2002

Johannes heiratete Koch, Margaretha in 1817 in ,, Region Odessa, Rußland. Margaretha (Tochter von Koch, Adam Friedrich und Haag, Anna Catharina) wurde geboren am 6 Jan 1792 in Schwaikheim, Rems-Murr-Kreis, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; getauft am 7 Jan 1792 in Schwaikheim, Rems-Murr-Kreis, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 1 Mrz 1870 in Alexanderhilf, Gebiet Großliebental, Region Odessa, Rußland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 05A34756B5FE43F48D46323F6D62780DC745
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

Notizen:

Karen Abel:
UID: 2ACF5BC73EF84D1490B131F9DDC8D47A1064
NOTE: According to Family Register pages for Glatten, Anna Maria went to Russia
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)